yep tyler is correct, when i bought the pc, dell had a special 3 years of macfees for only 40 bucks total, the saleman i was talking to ( i configured online then called a dell salesman) he pointed out 40 bucks for 3 years of mcafee's, was a great price, well it just ran out in december, but since im on aol and cable i get aol as they just went up to 11.95 from 9,95 a month but i like their mail and have friends on it,plus they have phone tech support free, and sometimes u can trick them into helping on some fringe issues,and if cable goes out i have unlimited dial up i can change it to, so i keep it,but anyway aol told me when dell mcafee ran out let aol handle my virus software, , its free, so i called aol tech, and he told me i qualified for the best version and i made him hang with me as i did it and installed it, only thing i changed was i set my firewall to stealth, as i have a sight that will scan ur ports,, i learned about it off the old show on tech tv, " screen savers" i learned alot on that show as ppl called in with problems, Steve Gibson was on it alot , that is who has the sight that will scan ur ports, for open ports, or closed ports, but u want stealth ports, with stealth ur pc will not ping or answer back to pings ,so on the Internet ur invisible, even closed port will let ppl know ur there,if i read his sight correct, so i download the best version premium security suite, i think same as tyler has, and it let u click if u want it to do spyware,and the whole ball of wax, it even caught what it called a potentially unwanted program, U BET when it removed it as i have a log, it had 40 of that program on the pc,,, for some reason i had a rash of not real bad things, but macafees calls them trojans, but i think they were mild ones, but macafees antivirus, will do it all, it got some in a manual scan and some in realtime scanning, like it scans in the background all the time,,it checks ur email and attachment, aol also scans its own mail, i also could get free antivirus that does it all from charter cable free, it claims to be the best, but i was so use to mcafee's i did the aol thing, only difference is it says mcafee's security suite ,,,,from aol. i have a spyware, also its old, its "adware 6 ", i run manualy but it usually only brings back " data miner" which is a cookie, i think, i always delete cookies each nite, , this guy at work got a new pc from a pc place, it had nortons which is good, he went to the sight and let it scan his ports, it came back stealth, then he turned off windows firewall, i have never had mine on, and his still came back stealth so nortons it doing it, ,, ok i will hush, take care...by the way marc, if u read this an emachine is rated very high, i saw somewhere,oh and always do all ur windows critical updates, most are security isssues, take care