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1Keep the Big Tent big Empty Keep the Big Tent big Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:58 pm

rosco 357

rosco 357
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my words, i have said im a centralist, for the most part, i do hope for things in the healthcare that may help me in the future if i need them, but if a law passes after it goes through conference committee and this is not a give it will be a tough vote,, the senate will never pass one with a government option, and many in the house want that, the house has to realize take what u can now. if this fails, it may never ever come up again, for decades, so the dems need to realize ppl are changing their mind , the far left is scaring pll, i hear it everyday, im from a conservative state as i have said, pll here like glen beck, and are being pushed his way,, so i will post this which i think the dems need to do, take care,

Keep the Big Tent big

By William M. Daley
Thursday, December 24, 2009;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/23/AR2009122302439_pf.html

The announcement by Alabama Rep. Parker Griffith that he is switching to the Republican Party is just the latest warning sign that the Democratic Party -- my lifelong political home -- has a critical decision to make: Either we plot a more moderate, centrist course or risk electoral disaster not just in the upcoming midterms but in many elections to come.

Rep. Griffith's decision makes him the fifth centrist Democrat to either switch parties or announce plans to retire rather than stand for reelection in 2010. These announcements are a sharp reversal from the progress the Democratic Party made starting in 2006 and continuing in 2008, when it reestablished itself as the nation's majority party for the first time in more than a decade. That success happened for one major reason: Democrats made inroads in geographies and constituencies that had trended Republican since the 1960s. In these two elections, a majority of independents and a sizable number of moderate Republicans joined the traditional Democratic base to sweep Democrats to commanding majorities in Congress and to bring Barack Obama to the White House.

These independents and Republicans supported Democrats based on a message indicating that the party would be a true Big Tent -- that we would welcome a diversity of views even on tough issues such as abortion, gun rights and the role of government in the economy.

This call was answered not just by voters but by a surge of smart, talented candidates who came forward to run and win under the Democratic banner in districts dominated by Republicans for a generation. These centrists swelled the party's ranks in Congress and contributed to Obama's victories in states such as Indiana, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado and other Republican bastions.

But now they face a grim political fate. On the one hand, centrist Democrats are being vilified by left-wing bloggers, pundits and partisan news outlets for not being sufficiently liberal, "true" Democrats. On the other, Republicans are pounding them for their association with a party that seems to be advancing an agenda far to the left of most voters.

The political dangers of this situation could not be clearer.

Witness the losses in New Jersey and Virginia in this year's off-year elections. In those gubernatorial contests, the margin of victory was provided to Republicans by independents -- many of whom had voted for Obama. Just one year later, they had crossed back to the Republicans by 2-to-1 margins.

Witness the drumbeat of ominous poll results. Obama's approval rating has fallen below 49 percent overall and is even lower -- 41 percent -- among independents. On the question of which party is best suited to manage the economy, there has been a 30-point swing toward Republicans since November 2008, according to Ipsos. Gallup's generic congressional ballot shows Republicans leading Democrats. There is not a hint of silver lining in these numbers. They are the quantitative expression of the swing bloc of American politics slipping away.

And, of course, witness the loss of Rep. Griffith and his fellow moderate Democrats who will retire. They are perhaps the truest canaries in the coal mine.

Despite this raft of bad news, Democrats are not doomed to return to the wilderness. The question is whether the party is prepared to listen carefully to what the American public is saying. Voters are not re-embracing conservative ideology, nor are they falling back in love with the Republican brand. If anything, the Democrats' salvation may lie in the fact that Republicans seem even more hell-bent on allowing their radical wing to drag the party away from the center.

All that is required for the Democratic Party to recover its political footing is to acknowledge that the agenda of the party's most liberal supporters has not won the support of a majority of Americans -- and, based on that recognition, to steer a more moderate course on the key issues of the day, from health care to the economy to the environment to Afghanistan.

For liberals to accept that inescapable reality is not to concede permanent defeat. Rather, let them take it as a sign that they must continue the hard work of slowly and steadily persuading their fellow citizens to embrace their perspective. In the meantime, liberals -- and, indeed, all of us -- should have the humility to recognize that there is no monopoly on good ideas, as well as the long-term perspective to know that intraparty warfare will only relegate the Democrats to minority status, which would be disastrous for the very constituents they seek to represent.

The party's moment of choosing is drawing close. While it may be too late to avoid some losses in 2010, it is not too late to avoid the kind of rout that redraws the political map. The leaders of the Democratic Party need to move back toward the center -- and in doing so, set the stage for the many years' worth of leadership necessary to produce the sort of pragmatic change the American people actually want.

The writer was secretary of commerce in the Clinton administration and chairman of Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign.

2Keep the Big Tent big Empty Re: Keep the Big Tent big Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:25 pm

gypsy

gypsy
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Umm I agree with some of this opinion/post..
I think I am a bit of central.I am not fully Liberal,nor Republican(conservative) I utilize a bit of both.
Republican politicians have not conducted themselves in their orthodox manner of old,I have very unfavorable thoughts for/against them..
EXCEPT GLEN BECK/Jeeze!! that I can't accept~he is a buffoon..

I hope the health care passes completely,and it is worked out by both house/senate
to the best of the people
I also do not believe Americans are against it, like the Republicans claim.

3Keep the Big Tent big Empty Re: Keep the Big Tent big Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:46 am

gypsy

gypsy
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I also think who scares more?? Republican

4Keep the Big Tent big Empty Re: Keep the Big Tent big Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:31 am

rosco 357

rosco 357
Veteran
gypsy wrote:I also think who scares more?? Republican

i tend to agree, they dont have the votes so tatics is all they have.

5Keep the Big Tent big Empty Re: Keep the Big Tent big Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:00 am

gypsy

gypsy
Moderator
totally/disappointed in the Republicans
I use to respect them..no more/they are using tactics,that will only hurt them,as it has for many years, an shameful is all I can say

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