2 Re: secretary of homeland security oil spill vid, Mon May 24, 2010 4:48 pm
gypsy
Moderator
you know I can't understand why the Government doesn't just step in clean it up then hand bp the bill~ I urge everyone to boycott BP
4 Re: secretary of homeland security oil spill vid, Mon May 31, 2010 12:59 am
rosco 357
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gypsy wrote:you know I can't understand why the Government doesn't just step in clean it up then hand bp the bill~ I urge everyone to boycott BP
right now the government cant clean this up, no one can,they can clean some, this is huge and if it goes into august as they are saying may happen,, think how bad this will be, i dont know if bp had enough or the correct shut off things, or not, but i would bet BP has not only their ppl but the best minds in the world trying to figure out how to stop this at the source,i would imagine minds of every oil company are involved, the government could not even get water to the katrina ppl in what 4 days, and as we know the main problem is how deep it is, and few things they have that can do work at how deep this is, they said this depth would crush a regular submarine, thats how deep it is. im not saying a regular sub could help , nothing it could do, but just showing how deep it is. i have not read or heard much on this as i have been gone , when i came home i think i heard the mud stuff did not work so now they will cut the pipe and try to put on a custom made one to fit this pipe. but nothing may work, take care,
5 Re: secretary of homeland security oil spill vid, Mon May 31, 2010 1:45 am
rosco 357
Veteran
gypsy wrote:you know I can't understand why the Government doesn't just step in clean it up then hand bp the bill~ I urge everyone to boycott BP
BP Seeks to Catch Most Oil as U.S. Exerts Spill Role (Update1)
By Steve Geimann and Carol Wolf
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aBFPCwr4B9b4#
May 30 (Bloomberg) -- BP Plc said it will seek to contain a majority of oil gushing from its Gulf of Mexico well with a new tactic to plug the leak as a White House adviser said the U.S. is now telling the company “what to do.”
The company encountered “too much flow” and the “top kill” using 30,000 barrels of mud was abandoned in favor of placing a cap over the well, Managing Director Robert Dudley said today on CNN’s “State of the Union” program. “We believe we will get a majority of the oil and gas,” Dudley said.
U.S. engineers, led by Energy Secretary Steven Chu, yesterday told BP of “grave concerns” about drilling mud, and the company halted the process, White House energy and climate adviser Carol Browner said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” broadcast. “At the end of the day, the government tells BP what to do,” Browner said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
BP had put the chances of the top kill succeeding at 60 percent to 70 percent. The company made three attempts before giving up last night.
“We failed to wrestle this beast to the ground,” Dudley said on “Fox News Sunday.” Containment has “no certainty” of success, he said on Fox. “The percentages are better” than forcing mud into the well, he said.
Chu met BP engineers yesterday and told them “it was too dangerous” to continue forcing mud into the well, Browner said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” broadcast. After the scientists met and “we told them of our very, very grave concerns,” the company abandoned the process, Browner said.
4 to 7 Days
BP didn’t provide an estimate of when the flow might be stopped with the new method. Installing the cap should take about four to seven days, and after that the company will begin installing a new blowout preventer, a series of valves designed to cut off the flow from the well, Doug Suttles, chief operating officer of BP America Inc., said yesterday.
BP’s failure using drilling mud was “enormously frustrating and really maddening” while the federal response to protect the coast is failing, Senator David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican, said on CNN.
The federal government needs to accelerate delivery of containment booms and start emergency dredging of barrier islands to block oil from reaching coastal marshes, Vitter said.
A plan proposed by state and local officials two weeks ago has been approved by the Army Corps of Engineers, though only for about 2 percent of the plan, Vitter said.
“That’s really the federal response to oversee and lead that effort to protect the coast and the marsh,” he said. “It has been a failure so far.”
Louisiana Sand Booms
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, who with Vitter met President Barack Obama on May 28, said the U.S. should require BP to pay the costs to build 40 miles of sand boom protecting his state’s wetlands from oil.
“The federal government shouldn’t be making excuses for BP,” said Jindal on ABC’s “This Week” broadcast. “This is their spill, their oil. They’re the responsible party. Make them responsible.”
Representative Edward Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, today endorsed a suggestion by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi made on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital With Al Hunt” to lift the financial liability limit for oil companies such as BP.
“I do not believe that large energy companies should be able to escape having unlimited liability for the catastrophes which they create,” Markey said on CBS. “If the oil industry wants to drill in ultra-deep waters, we need ultra-safe technologies as well.”
Lower-Marine Riser
In the Gulf, BP has started deploying a containment device known as a lower-marine riser package cap. The cap will attach to the top of the well’s existing blowout preventer and will then funnel oil and gas into a pipe that extends to a ship on the surface, Suttles said.
After the attachment of the lower-marine riser package cap, BP plans to install the new blowout preventer on top of the existing one, Suttles said. BP will then try to use the valves on the new blowout preventer to stop the flow.
“We’re still looking at a month before we get this thing killed,” Les Ply, a retired mud engineering consultant for the oil industry, said yesterday in a telephone interview. “I think we’re looking at a week to 10 days to get this riser and cap in place.”
The new method, if successful, would stop the leak long enough for a so-called relief well to be drilled nearby and provide a permanent seal.
‘Enormous Mistakes’
BP has made “enormous mistakes and probably cut corners,” leading up to the April 20 explosion on the Deepwater Horizon drilling platform, Vitter said.
“There were some horrible things that went wrong and it seems like horrible decisions that led to the initial event,” he said.
Dudley, in response to a question on “Fox News Sunday” about cutting corners, said “I don’t believe they did” and that the company used well and drilling designs adopted by other companies.
“What’s happened out in the Gulf today is something that is an industry issue to understand this failsafe use of equipment,” Dudley said. “It’s going to have implications for the drilling industry not in the U.S. only, but all around the world. Everyone’s going to step back and learn from this.”
To contact the reporter on this story: Steve Geimann in Washington at sgeimann@bloomberg.net
6 Re: secretary of homeland security oil spill vid, Mon May 31, 2010 12:04 pm
gypsy
Moderator
P didn’t provide an estimate of when the flow might be stopped with the new method. Installing the cap should take about four to seven days, and after that the company will begin installing a new blowout preventer, a series of valves designed to cut off the flow from the well, Doug Suttles, chief operating officer of BP America Inc., said yesterday.
I don't know when this rig was actually constructed but this valve should have been installed,more studies should have been done,since this is a very deep well`
from what i heard bp is just leasing it,so don't know if it is a old well or recently drilled,do you know Rosco?
I don't know when this rig was actually constructed but this valve should have been installed,more studies should have been done,since this is a very deep well`
from what i heard bp is just leasing it,so don't know if it is a old well or recently drilled,do you know Rosco?
7 Re: secretary of homeland security oil spill vid, Mon May 31, 2010 4:07 pm
rosco 357
Veteran
no i really dont know anything about this well , i know BP executives were on the rig, when the explosion happened, i have not read much on this as far as was the well being shut down ? really the problem is dominating the new, but im sure i could find some info, but i have been busy,, here and the lake,
8 Re: secretary of homeland security oil spill vid, Mon May 31, 2010 5:03 pm
gypsy
Moderator
think it was the halliburton executives,on the rig not bpI think that is what I read somwhere.~ they were installing concrete and a few hours later it blew up~
9 Re: secretary of homeland security oil spill vid, Mon May 31, 2010 7:50 pm
rosco 357
Veteran
20 hours later on the concrete, , but i have not read anywhere that , that is what caused it, anyway, things happen, and always will the only blame i would put on anyone i guess bp is if they did not have enough things to cut off the blow out, i know the blow out was causes but a gas bubble coming up and as it did it had less pressure on it so it expanded, but it was complicated, really no need to place blame , more important is stoping it, so lets pray what they are doing now will help, i doubt there is company any better or equiped to handle these jobs than them, but anyway, i dont care, im not looking to place blame, anything mechanical breaks,
10 Re: secretary of homeland security oil spill vid, Mon May 31, 2010 8:03 pm
runawayhorses
Owner
I AM looking to place blame, and I also want the oil pipe capped. I blame BP. They don't know what they are doing drilling in the ocean. I want them out of the US waters right now!. BP is ruined. They have proven they are not good at what they do, I want them out. I'm sick and tired of that company's irresponsibility to drill oil. Get the hell away from US BP, you stink at drilling oil. They suck at it to put it mildly. I want all ocean oil drilling stopped. Quit it. Its time to put all the oil company's out of business. We simply can't afford there mistakes any longer.
If BP is the best people in the oil business, then that speaks volumes. If that's the best anyone can do, than forget it. quit drilling in the oceans. They aren't good enough yet to risk our environment to. Screw them. Drop them. Lets look to alternative power, its already available, but like I said before, the oil companies don't want that. They are keeping us down, and will continue to do so. I don't know how to stop power like they have. But one thing is to not buy there products. They are a disgrace. They control the world right now. Obama could stop them, but my guess is he won't. Oil companies have too much political power right now. But someday that will all change. Probably after a few more oil spills will people finally decide they are no good and want them gone. Then we can begin to move forward to much more efficient alternative power. We don't really need their oil anymore. But they control us so we can't implement it.
If BP is the best people in the oil business, then that speaks volumes. If that's the best anyone can do, than forget it. quit drilling in the oceans. They aren't good enough yet to risk our environment to. Screw them. Drop them. Lets look to alternative power, its already available, but like I said before, the oil companies don't want that. They are keeping us down, and will continue to do so. I don't know how to stop power like they have. But one thing is to not buy there products. They are a disgrace. They control the world right now. Obama could stop them, but my guess is he won't. Oil companies have too much political power right now. But someday that will all change. Probably after a few more oil spills will people finally decide they are no good and want them gone. Then we can begin to move forward to much more efficient alternative power. We don't really need their oil anymore. But they control us so we can't implement it.
11 Re: secretary of homeland security oil spill vid, Mon May 31, 2010 8:38 pm
gypsy
Moderator
:cheers:I agree !00 percent!! it is time to not to have to depend on oil, this will continue to get worse until our government stops pussy footing around and curtail this reckless attitude BP and the oil companies have, Get out of our waters, until you know how to do this~
Sorry Rosco I want to know who to blame, and I want their Asses kicked! Period, don't collect two hundred, go street to Jail LOL to many incidents involving BP
Sorry Rosco I want to know who to blame, and I want their Asses kicked! Period, don't collect two hundred, go street to Jail LOL to many incidents involving BP
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