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1Obama is he a Dufus Empty Obama is he a Dufus Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:34 am

Candy Cottingham

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Obama want's more Tax out of the Rich...
We did that and all the Blighters moved out of the Country

Is he a Dufus or a doofus?

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2Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:41 pm

gypsy

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no he is a very smart Man/President~ thank you

3Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:54 pm

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let the rich move out and take their buddies the repulicans with them,we would be better off, they don't contribute anything anyway.

4Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:47 pm

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Candy Cottingham wrote:Obama want's more Tax out of the Rich...
We did that and all the Blighters moved out of the Country

Is he a Dufus or a doofus?
all obama is asking it to put the tax on the rich to back where president Clinton had it and we did pretty good then, and also ran no deficit, im not sure what england taxes the rich at, ihave no idea but would not be surprised if it were not higher than what it is here, plus there are many tax loopholes for them,,

5Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:41 pm

Candy Cottingham

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Taxed to the Hilt.

Rob the Rich to pay the Poor.

Robin Hoods Idea..but instead of sending the Sheriff's round they send you a letter and say pay up or else.

As a Pensioner like Brian anything over £9,400 which is possible Government Pension. is subject to Tax. It is classed as Income.
HIS OWN PRIVATE PENSION which he has all ready paid tax on is subject to more tax.
(IT IS A PIDDLING PENSION ANYWAY)

Footballers get paid £250,000 a week ...that is a quarter of a million.
The FAN pays a heavy price for a ticket.
SOMETHING IS WRONG SOMEWHERE!

Oh! The Rich pay 95% Tax in the Pound.

America is so far in debt Trillions they will never get out of it.
Warren Buffet is all for it...he is nearly 90 and got Billions of dollars.

This Government took over the debts of the previous Government.

Tax Loopholes...OH! YES ...there are many for the rich.



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6Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:54 pm

Candy Cottingham

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possible Government Pension plus some savings. (This is a correction)

We cannot live entirely on Government Pension. Even though the home is now paid for.
Council Tax is extortionate. It pays for roads and refuse ect;

They are putting the age up to 67 for claiments of pension..(I think)

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7Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:00 pm

Candy Cottingham

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Basic Pension is £94 a week,

But it depends on what one has earned during there life time of work. So it varies.

Brian's is about £120 approx..but I don't know exactly.

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8Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:01 pm

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I know I'm late to this subject. Here's the problems with the "tax the rich" approach. 1) In our system, about half of those who report an income of +$250K are small business owners filing their profits as personal income. Very large corps can claim many exemptions (oil depletion,equipment and structure maintenance, stock depreciations,etc) not available to small biz operators so there is an advantage to filing this way. That strategy allows them to deduct mortgage notes,cars, and other things. Increasing taxes on these people will,in many cases, remove their profits. Stats show that they do 51% of hiring so imagine how increasing their taxes will affect their hiring posture. 2) The top 10% of our pop pays 70%+ of taxes as it is now so how can we say they aren't "paying their fare share" as Obama keeps saying? 3) If we were to tax all the "millionares and billionares" at 100%, it wouldn't make a dent in the national debt, so why raise their taxes? Because it sounds good and the liberals who are usually affluent and can afford it don't mind burdening the moms and pops who are operating the local dry cleaners with higher taxes. It's class warfare. If taxing these people will NOT reduce the national debt in a significant way and will arguably reduce job creation,what other reason can there be for raising their taxes? 3) Our tax system is hopeless. We all know it but nobody in gov't is willing to "fix it". Why? Because the MANY exemptions and breaks offered to large businesses and special interest groups are simply bargaining chips in obtaining campaign funds and pork for members of Congress. The infernally complicated tax code hides a vast sea of dirty deals. That money is Congress' life blood. I think the reason Cain is getting his sudden audience is because his 999 program at least approaches a solution to the mess we have. I don't know if that plan is viable,but the people wanna scrap the current tax code and with good reason. It's basically a bribery scheme.

I'm not one of those who blames Obama for our current economic distress. Of the $4 trillion+ in added nat'l debt, his stimulus plan only added $800 billion. The huge increase in the debt was caused by lowered revenues in turn caused by reduced business activity. Roscoe and Tyler can confirm that I and others here said his stimulus plan was a total waste of money and was meant only to buy votes. Instead of tackling the drop in revenues by employing REAL job creation planning,his stimulus bill hired few people and just added to the national debt in a crass vote buying scheme. Remember this: Socialism is just communism in a diaper. A government managed economy is a guaranteed failure. Ask the Russians.

9Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:59 pm

rosco 357

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i agree the main problem is the reduced business activity. there are no easy answers,, i think obama is in trouble,because i dont see the economy changing that much before the election but we shall see, take care.

10Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:05 pm

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When Obama started touting the "arab spring" movement and denouncing Mubarak, the die was cast: ANOTHER DISASTER! Muslims are now openly murdering Christians in Egypt while the police and military look on or actually join in the mayhem. The same will happen in Libya. Obama has acted in the interest of Israel's enemies again and shows every indication of continuing to do so. Is his plan to destroy Israel by empowering her enemies? A ridiculous question? OK, so why was Obama so intent on ousting Mubarak? Was it because of the lack of freedom in Egypt to murder non-muslims? Doofication.

11Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:30 pm

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Update: I just now see that the situation in Ecypt has escalated. Muslim mobs roam the streets at will without police or military intervention. Coptic ears have been cut off and coptic women have been raped (as reported-not confirmed). It just seems,sometimes, that we are not doing very well anywhere. The "muslim brotherhood" would,if polls are accurate,win an election. In a year, this unplanned violence will result in a victor and a loser, both of which know how to kill in a riot. Ask the Indian Hindus. Will Obama have the same diplomatic "success" in Libya?

12Obama is he a Dufus Empty Re: Obama is he a Dufus Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:10 pm

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Moon right now that whole area is a tinder box, our policies are probably going to be our biggest enemy very soon.
Candy- you are very astute in your observation of Obama, but it does go deeper. If he is trying as he says to create jobs then why tax the very people who are able to bring forth these jobs. Our job market is jumping to other countries at an alarming rate. His moratorium on off shore drilling has sent several big oil companies out of the Gulf of Mexico to other foreign waters yet we buy gulf drilled oil from Mexico. A huge pipeline project from Alaska to Louisiana is virtually on hold but the oil is there to be moved. To me it seems he is doing his best to cripple the country economically .

The touted rail improvements are close to being set on the back burner, all the so called shovel ready jobs are not even feasible right now . He is slowly and methodically destroying the country.

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