well this was my X's thoughts, but i cant blame her she had it tough growing up,i mean family would bring them groceries, , her mom worked, her dad drank so bad he could not hold a job for long, and he did goofy things, he did not hurt the 3 daughters, but they were scared and hid under the bed from him, her mom being a christian, took them to church, and did not believe in divorce, but finally just had to, so she had such a bad experience in growing up, is why, the kids see plenty on tv, but not any in any of our familys,, mine or the inlaws, in all my yearsthere has never been any at any family function, but ofcourse kims father in law, was a machinist but also a preacher, he is a very good man, and does not put up with some things he is old school,, but is great with kids, he take the boys golfing, and fishing, he is retired, from both now, and has a saw mill, he has for a hobby, probably one of the best man i ever met,