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rosco 357

rosco 357
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my words, reading this ticks me off to say it mildly and also scares me. we read this then some ppl like sarah palin and other conservatives in congress,attack the ppl that are trying to control or redo the way healthcare works in America. Where it said here is a 1950s price sheet, would not copy, but it was cheep, i even have my birth bill, it cost way more to go to walmart now than it did to pay my hospital bill when i was born. u can see the price sheet in the url, just take a look,i dont know which is more crooked the oil industry or the medical industry, take care

Can Health Care Reform Possibly Control Costs?
By CHARLES HUGH SMITH
Posted 1:00 PM 04/10/10 Health Care
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/industry-power-threatens-health-care-reform/19419181/#

President Obama and his supporters have high hopes for health care reform. One of the most central goals of their plan is the reduction of long-term costs in the system, a much needed change. But despite the promises and theoretical projections, it's not clear how those reductions will be achieved. And the considerable power of the health care industry, which will remain in full force even with reform, may make those cost savings difficult if not impossible to achieve.

Part of the problem of health care reform is the nature of the health care industry. At least to some observers, America's health care industry is more of a cartel than a competitive marketplace. The health care industry is a highly profitable and politically powerful group of companies which operate in cartel-like fashion, using their clout to limit competition and establish highly profitable pricing.

Health care operates as a "cartel" not in the sense of a formal organization like OPEC (the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries) or the criminal activities of drug cartels, but in the informal sense of a small group of companies which dominate specific markets and thus wield significant political and pricing power within those markets.

The health care reform bill does little to challenge this power. Indeed, it is a sign of the medical industry's enormous political power that the health reform bill overlooked some of the biggest cost drivers in American medicine.

And if costs don't go down, then the affordability and sustainability of the U.S. health care system become questionable over the long-term. The U.S. already spends twice as much as other developed countries on health care as a percentage of GDP.

Shifting the Blame

When asked to identify the source of America's runaway health care costs, health care industries and trade groups excel at pointing to the next guy as the source. Doctors, hospitals, insurers, HMOs, pharmaceutical companies, malpractice lawsuits and the courts which award huge settlements, Federal regulatory agencies, Medicare -- scapegoats abound, and so do rationalizations.

If no one group is responsible, then perhaps we need to look at the entire system of self-serving industries. The system profits from guaranteed payments to private-sector companies and is protected by special political dispensations. It is based on regional networks of providers negotiating with insurers to exclude competitors and set exorbitant prices that are passed on as insurance premiums. While insurers complain about rising costs, they are exempt from antitrust laws and thus they have the power to consolidate smaller insurers within a region and then pass on price increases to consumers and businesses alike.

And if the health care reform bill doesn't really address the cost drivers and the incentives built into the current system, then it's difficult to see how costs can decline.

A recent report by Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley uncovered multiple forms of anti-competitive behavior among providers, including huge price disparities that had no visible relation to any free-market factors. The report concluded that this and other forms of collusive behavior were "pervasive."

Monopoly Pricing, Wasteful Spending

Once upon a time in U.S. health care, it was the norm to post prices for procedures and care; this hospital price sheet is from the 1950s. According to the Coakley report, this is no longer the norm.


Some local providers who post their prices openly, such as Keith Smith, an anesthesiologist with the Oklahoma Surgery Center, find that preferred provider organizations (PPOs) and insurance companies aren't interested in contracting with his group, even though their prices are 70% less than those charged by local not-for-profit hospitals. To Smith, that is strong evidence that medical cartels are making deals with insurers to monopolize services in their region.

To cite another example of the distortions which end up costing the nation twice as much for health care (as a percentage of GDP) as competing developed countries: Pittsburgh has almost as many MRI machines as the nation of Canada. Western Pennsylvania has about 140 MRI machines, while the 32 million residents of Canada share 151 MRI machines. And the U.S. machines are getting a lot of use: the number of CT and MRI scans (scans other than old-fashioned X rays) tripled from 85 to 234 per thousand insured people since 1999.

While proponents are quick to note that scans are cheaper than the alternative diagnostic procedures, one firm's research found that a doctor who owns his own machine is four times as likely to order a scan as a doctor who doesn't.

As if that wasn't enough to highlight the self-serving nature of the current system, MRI scanner manufacturer General Electric waged a two-year lobbying campaign to roll back cuts in Medicare reimbursements for scans. While the effort proved unsuccessful due to the intense political pressure to reduce soaring Medicare costs, some critics claim that providers simply made up the reduced reimbursements by increasing the number of tests administered.

Reform's Cost Reduction Strategy: Comparative Effectiveness Research

The heart of the health care reform bill's cost-saving strategy is called "comparative effectiveness research," which attempts to lower costs by establishing the most effective treatments via statistics-driven methodologies. The standard example is such studies might prove that cheaper generic drugs work as well in clinical trials as branded drugs.

But the flaw in relying on statistical studies is that marketing and lobbying can still sway policy decisions on which treatments will be judged "most effective." Take, for instance, the proposals to offer gastric surgeries to overweight teens and children as a treatment for childhood obesity, which is rising rapidly in the U.S.

The corporations which make gastric bands for the surgery are pushing for the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to allow their use on teens as young as 14, which would open up a new market of 2 million prospective patients. If the devices and surgery are approved, then government programs such as Medicaid might be asked to approve payments for the procedure as the "most effective available" treatment for teen obesity.

The problem with claims about effectiveness is that there is little data which shows gastric surgery is effective in the long-term for either adults or teens, according to Dr. Edward Livingston of the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center. Livingston, who has been performing gastric surgeries on adults for the past 17 years, reported that many patients regain weight after the surgery if their lifestyles haven't changed. The goal, he said, should be a public health approach that makes surgery unnecessary.

Public Health: Only the Public Profits

Dr. Walter C. Willett, chair of the Department of Nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health, recently addressed the potential for highly effective, low-cost public health measures to reduce heart disease. Dr. Willett reported that modest changes in our everyday environments can encourage much healthier lifestyles which can reap huge benefits within months.

This is called "choice architecture" in the social sciences: establishing conditions which enable better choices. Examples include banning snack machines and eating in school hallways, making city centers more walkable and offering healthier choices on restaurant menus. Such modest changes resulted in a 32% reduction in one city's employees' health claims in just 10 months.

Dr. Willett offered a handful of common-sense national policy changes, including subsidizing whole grains, fruits and vegetables in the food-stamp program; setting targets for salt reduction; incorporating physical education into No Child Left Behind; and requiring that sidewalks and bike lanes be part of every federally funded road project

But who will push for these changes when the alternative treatments such as surgery are worth hundreds of millions of dollars in new revenues for medical device makers and providers? If the incentives built into the current system aren't changed, then the reform bill's promises of cost-reduction may well turn out to be hollow.

gypsy

gypsy
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It is amazing how long these insurance companies have controlled not having health care reform before now,,how many years the Conservatives(Repugs and some dems) have fought to keep the poor/and working class / people down,,received pay offs/it would probably shock us as to how much of this goes on in other fields


I like the latter part of this article,about promoting better health to Americans~

I will try to find the letter I sent to Jim Bunting( the AH who tried to stop the unemployment benefits~it was published in the Paducah Sun.

.I am not a cussing woman, but this can make one cuss~ LOL and the other assholes,that are trying to shut down the people who want better for America

runawayhorses

runawayhorses
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Amen to that Gypsy. I have said all along that America needed a healthcare plan like Canada has done. We got it. It will be perfected in time. We win as a country did the right thing. I like it when that happens. lol


Well, now we have to wait a few years to see the results I guess. But we are in the right with this plan, its the humanitarian thing to do. I'm proud that it passed.

4Can Health Care Reform Possibly Control Costs? Empty The letter I sent to jim bunning Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:38 am

gypsy

gypsy
Moderator
Paducah sun published it//I will try to find the link//

Paducah Sun
Jim Bunning
This man is shameful,he deserves to be voted out, or banned from his office
we the people need to wake up and look at what the /he Republicans/some democrats are doing to our country.
we need to clean house this next election~ get rid of the corruption..Vote the republicans out of Kentucky office..

Linda
left out my last name /for privacy purposes only here though,it is in the orginal article

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